This weird level I made

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Re: This weird level I made

Postby testtubegames » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:46 pm

Yeah, the solver does both those things. (So I suppose in my example above, step 1 would just have 2 states). Even so, the number of active states can be tremendous.

Luckily, very few of the game's official levels had this issue.

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Re: This weird level I made

Postby A Random Player » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:48 pm

testtubegames wrote:Yeah, the solver does both those things. (So I suppose in my example above, step 1 would just have 2 states). Even so, the number of active states can be tremendous.

Luckily, very few of the game's official levels had this issue.

Very few?! So there are official levels which crash the solver? Which one(s)?
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Re: This weird level I made

Postby testtubegames » Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:01 pm

Oh hell yeah. These aren't levels in the flash versions, but in the iOS version definitely. The one that springs to mind is in Chapter 3 (3-30 to be precise)... and involves decaying taus and muons into a bunch of particles, and blowing up boxes. Not only do you create tons of particles, the level also takes many moves to complete - in the high 40's. So when it came time to set the 'perfect' for it, I just choose my best -- and kudos to anyone who can beat it.

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Re: This weird level I made

Postby Chemi » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:34 am

[Diagonal:0:maaaaazhtaaaaazztaaaaaztammtaaazaaamtaamaaaatmaasaaaaama]

Finish this in 148 moves :shock:

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Re: This weird level I made

Postby testtubegames » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:57 am

Chemi wrote:
[Diagonal:0:maaaaazhtaaaaazztaaaaaztammtaaazaaamtaamaaaatmaasaaaaama]

Finish this in 148 moves :shock:


Whoa, that's dedication! Well, as long as :Higgs :Hides eventually, :He should be :Happy!

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Re: This weird level I made

Postby 19683 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:51 pm

A Random Player wrote:

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[Diagonal:0:maaaaazhtaaaaazztaaaaaztammtaaazaaamtaamaaaatmaasaaaaama]

I'm not actually sure if it's advantageous to annihilate the diagonal first, as you would need to "manufacture" more oscillated antineutrinos, which would take more moves.. But with it in the way, it takes longer to move the two manufactured antineutrinos.
I got 65 or so by not annihilating the diagonal.

Edit: I got 53 moves by annihilating about 6 of the diagonal, so maybe it's faster.

I made a sequel: [Diagonal 2:0:daaafazhtfffafzzdaaafaztfmdtafazaffdtafdfaafdmafsffaffda]

Best scores: 65
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Re: This weird level I made

Postby A Random Player » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:02 pm

19683 wrote:
A Random Player wrote:

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[Diagonal:0:maaaaazhtaaaaazztaaaaaztammtaaazaaamtaamaaaatmaasaaaaama]

I'm not actually sure if it's advantageous to annihilate the diagonal first, as you would need to "manufacture" more oscillated antineutrinos, which would take more moves.. But with it in the way, it takes longer to move the two manufactured antineutrinos.
I got 65 or so by not annihilating the diagonal.

Edit: I got 53 moves by annihilating about 6 of the diagonal, so maybe it's faster.

I made a sequel: [Diagonal 2:0:daaafazhtfffafzzdaaafaztfmdtafazaffdtafdfaafdmafsffaffda]

Best scores: 65

Ack, electrons, positrons, and all three neutrinos?!

I got 38 :H Hint: "Neutrinos aren't the only things that explode..."
Edit: 36. :)
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Re: This weird level I made

Postby testtubegames » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:30 am

A Random Player wrote:Ack, electrons, positrons, and all three neutrinos?!

I got 38 :H Hint: "Neutrinos aren't the only things that explode..."
Edit: 36. :)


11! (For diagonal 2, just to be clear) I think we're getting close on that one... we're at least within 10 moves of perfect.

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Re: This weird level I made

Postby A Random Player » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:30 pm

testtubegames wrote:
A Random Player wrote:Ack, electrons, positrons, and all three neutrinos?!

I got 38 :H Hint: "Neutrinos aren't the only things that explode..."
Edit: 36. :)


11! (For diagonal 2, just to be clear) I think we're getting close on that one... we're at least within 10 moves of perfect.

I got 11 too! I think this is the perfect.

Edit: If I may add this:

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[Diagonal 3:0:taaadazhadddaazzaamaaaztdaatadazadadadamaaamaaaasddaadda]

I got.. 152 :oops: Electrons everywhere, which force you to backtrack a lot after unblocking this electron, just to unblock that electron, to move that neutrino...
I think perfect is around 100 or so.
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Re: This weird level I made

Postby testtubegames » Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:37 pm

A Random Player wrote:
testtubegames wrote:11! (For diagonal 2, just to be clear) I think we're getting close on that one... we're at least within 10 moves of perfect.

I got 11 too! I think this is the perfect.
Edit: If I may add this:

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[Diagonal 3:0:taaadazhadddaazzaamaaaztdaatadazadadadamaaamaaaasddaadda]

I got.. 152 :oops: Electrons everywhere, which force you to backtrack a lot after unblocking this electron, just to unblock that electron, to move that neutrino...
I think perfect is around 100 or so.


Ack! These 'diagonal' levels are really intimidating. I managed to get it going pretty fast, though... with 114 moves, and now 56 moves.


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